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CDT EX550i crossover & DRT26A Tweeter Upgrade review
So I recieved my CDT EX550i Crossover as well as the CDT Modular DRT26A Tweeter set (image can be seen here). The crossover point on the 550i is at 2.5kHz, with a 24db/octave slope. The benefit of the low crossover point is the reduction of audible comb filtering, and generally a smoother transition from mid to tweeter. The tweeter uses an aluminum dome which is a nice go between when a hard dome is too bright, and a soft dome is just not critical enough for the listener.
Please keep in mind, I am an extremely critical listener. Many issues I notice will not be apparent to most listeners. I found very few people who had the same complaints as I did in my initial set's review. You can read my initial review of the set here. This upgrade was purchased in an attempt to address some comb filtering, cone breakup at or near the crossover point, a slightly canned midrange, and a silk tweeter that was a little to soft for my tastes. Now, on to the install in question. The amplifier is a Cadence SQA-4 bridged, running 200 WRMS/ch. It is set to run at full range. The source is a Pioneer Premier FH-P800BT. Everything is set flat unless otherwise indicated in the review, all bass boost and enrichment modes off. I use the HU to highpass at 63Hz. Doors are fairly deadened, although admittedly I didn't do a lot to them. All factory hush pads are still in the doors. The mids are CDT EF61FG mids. Just getting these units in my hand was impressive. Everything about the upgrades just feels vastly superior to the EX-450 and the TW25S Pros The DRT-26 is SO much nicer then the TW25 (which are well built in their own right). The units weigh I would guess 50% more then the TW25s. They are really built nice, and the black matte housings are very sexy. The color offset of the aluminum domes looks sweet. There is no way in hell you could be unhappy with the mounting options. Flush flat, flush angled, surface flat, surface angled, and "pods". I chose the flush angled mounts so I could play with my angling a bit better. The quick release is pretty damn slick, and very secure. Just 1/8 turn with the release key and the driver pops out and the spring releases it from the seat. Popping it in is very easy, and very smooth, without difficulty from the release spring. A solid click let's you know it is engaged. The price on these tweeters is twice that of the TW25Pro, and just the feel of the unit seems to justify the cost. But how does it sound!?!?! The 550i crossovers are very nice too. They are a little bigger then the EX450s, but not as significantly as I expected. The covers are very hard to get off of them to adjust for midwoofer and tweeter options, and I was worried about breaking the cases. That is my only real complaint about any of what I received today. The terminations are beautiful, and extremely solid. There is a plethora of adjustability with this crossover set. My only other gripe is that I do wish they were marked better so I knew where I was going with the tweeter adjustment. It is just 4 clicks on the switch. The mid is well marked, which seems odd as the tweeter adjustment would be more critical IMO. The upgrades definately met and/or exceeded my desired goals. The crossover adjustment made a tremendous initial impact. The mid breakup and canny sound is all gone. Comb filtering appears non-existent, when playing some lower frequency information, in particular the saxophone in "Shine on You Crazy Diamond", and Dave Matthews "#34". I also ran it through the paces listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon, Sarah McLachlan's "Adia" and "Angel", TOOL's Lateralus, and Steely Dan's A Decade of Steely Dan. Female vocals are very rich and inviting. Sarah's voice was so sweet, and so beautiful through the tweeters. Norah's breathless voice really rings true to her nickname "The Queen of Serene" through this set. I noticed no sibilance, like one would expect from metal domes. I like to use Dave and Floyd, and Sarah, and Norah because their voices as well as all the orchestral instruments, and pianos really put a set of tweeters to work, and crossover points get tested throughout the entire song. The aluminum domes are so detailed, and critical but they still maintain the delicate sound of silk. I cannot discern any real ringing at all. In short, they are accurate but not fatiguing. If you like silk, you will love these. But if you are a titanium dome fan, they will likely be too soft. Their off axis response is pretty good, but the wide range of mounting options should make off axis listening far from a requirement. So to conclude this review, I have to say I am very pleased. Mike, an authorized CDT dealer from Exige/Vertex Audio deserves props for amazing customer service, and for providing me my goods so quickly I almost thought he lived right around the corner from me!!! I ordered them Wednesday, and got them Friday! I will likely be performing further upgrades to the set. Mike and I are discussing some ES-06 mids... so there may be more CDT reviews to come. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend any of CDT's higher end sets to a discerning listener. I wanted to include a few images for those of you interested in seeing the units. Crossovers topless (I circled the 2 adjustment switches, the mid is up higher, and the tweet is lower) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0116.jpg Crossovers (EX450 on the left, 550i on the right) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0117.jpg Passenger side, drivers perspective (sexy black and aluminum) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0122.jpg (Compare with TW25Pro Silks) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0106.jpg Drivers side. When I look down at the tweeter, just tilting my head, this is exactly what I see. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0123.jpg Drivers side, just outside the steering wheel http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0124.jpg Here is the box, with several of the mounting options. The angled flush mounts are in the vehicle already, so you can see just how many options there really are! http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f9...smDSCF0125.jpg |
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Good stuff,sounds like you are a happy camper
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Impressive review, I'm glad your finally happy!!
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as soon as work picks back up im getting the ES-07 and ES tweeters... with active xover... i think they will be worth the money..
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Nice. I'm glad things worked out for you. I'm not sure what CDT is thinking with the high crossover point on their other x-overs.
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Glad to see you're enjoying thr DRT-26A tweets...as I sure do. Seeing they laugh at the 2.5khz x-over point is also very reassuring (since I'll be getting the EX550i when the fundage allows).
![]() Did you notice any improvement in midbass response w/ the lower x-over point? Was the vocal presence significantly improved? Since you're admittingly light on deadener, the ES-06's you're considering might like a more thourall application ![]() Regardless, it should be a nice upgrade as well. And it'll leave you w/ nothing of use from your original purchase lol
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I didn't notice much variance at all on the midbass, to be honest. I never particularly expected to. The mids do seem less fatigued, but with 1/2 of the frequency information being delivered, that is to be expected. The biggest difference is in the midrange. Speaking of the initial purchase... does anyone know of someone interested in a set with 3 weeks worth of play on it?
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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nice review
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: www.vertexaudio.com
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Glad this worked out better for you Seth! Thanks for your review!
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Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Louisville, KY USA
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With active x/o being all the rage in car audio, I still believe that a proper passive design will be superior. As you said, you (and I too probably) hear or listen to more things than regular folks. |
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From what Mike told me the 550 was designed to work with the ES-06 mids, which are true midwoofers and have a listed FR of 50-4kHz, and the DRT26 tweeter, which I have upgraded to. So the intended implementation is different then my set (Maybe the EX480 would have been a better candidate for the original set). So there is no doubt this is a completely different animal, with completely different design goals. I did not audition the crossovers alone, I just went ahead and swapped out the crossovers and tweeters at the same time. I will be auditioning a set of EF61CF (carbon fiber) cones for Mike, and he asked me to use the 450 as well as the 550 and offer feedback. I am willing to bet the CF cones will hold up better to the 450 crossover. I will go one further and guess the CL with the pulp cones would handle it even better... there is really no substitute for good old fashioned pulp cones IMO. And as far as active vs passive, I agree completely! I have heard far too many poorly set up active systems in my day to tell anyone to bypass passives. I also feel outside frequency adjustments create phasing anomalies (which is why i always try to have my install all install, rather then slap them in and EQ them) which are difficult to contend with from an electronic standpoint. In most cases I have found the passive crossover "voice" of a well designed set to be far more pleasing then an active set's "digital" voice. Being an anal listener has it's advantages, but as you know the disadvantages usually result in spending more damn money to get it right . This was supposed to be a sub $1000 install for a daily driver. At this rate I will have that in the front stage alone! Thank God I have a couple Adire subs laying around here, and all I need is power for them, or I would be way too deep into this
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